Ryan Sheely and Matthew Wrather return to discuss recent episodes of Gossip Girl, wrapping up the Ben/Juliet/Serena plot with a consideration of structural and personal revenge, answering listener email, and looking forward to Lily Van Der Woodsen-Bass-Humphrey’s reign as a super-villainess.
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That may be the first time you guys actually coordinated the sign-off well.
Hey! It’s Amanda from Brazil ;)
Thanks for doing this podcast about Gossip Girl only, it was really necessary after the whole Ben/Juliet/Serena/Lily mess. And also thanks for reading bits from my email and calling it fantastic and all, I really mean all the compliments to TFT, you have no clue how many episodes I’ve listened to in one sitting.
Just wanted you guys to know I listened to the show and might start watching The Wire soon… I’ll be living like a housewife, staying at my boyfriend’s apt alone while he’s working, just me and Netflix. And yes, I know, Omar dies. Any more tv shows/movies suggestions? I’ll have about 3 weeks of time with nothing to do and all my shows are in hiatus!
You know, we’ve actually been thinking of doing an episode on a movie or something over the break, because we won’t really start recording again until GG and Glee come back in January or February. So if there’s something you want us to watch, let us know.
I’m totally butting in, but I’d still insist on one of the modern-teenagers-in-older-classics like Clueless or She’s The Man.
I don’t know if this would be good overthinking material, but the Sofia Coppola movies (The Virgin Suicides, Lost In Translation and Marie Antoinette), as a trilogy about teenage girls/young women alienated from society and their peers or whatever. Not sure how to get social sciences into the mix (though you could use Kathleen Turner’s character as an example of Don’t Try This At Home: how to NOT raise your children – an experiment in childrearing gone terribly bad), but I love Sofia Coppola and the movies are about teenage girls, so it kinda fits.
I also like Gab’s idea though, and 10 Things I Hate About You would be cool too. Maybe put it together with the movies she mentioned and do a Shakespeare as teen movies podcast?
I also just watched The White Ribbon, and in the end it’s about a bunch of crazy, effed up, evil kids, so again, fucking teenagers in a way. And then there’s also the fact that the movie really only implies anything and doesn’t discuss their behavior at all, it just tries to show how they got to be like that, but in a sorta generic way I thought. So that could use some overthinking.
I’ll write again if I come up with something else!
As far as TV goes, the only TFT-related thing I watch other than Gossip Girl and Glee is Pretty Little Liars. I hear that Vampire Diaries is not as bad as I think it is but I don’t think the majority of the characters on that show count as teenagers, both in terms of the age of the actors and the fact that they’re presumably vampires.
I second “10 Things I Hate About You” (although there’s not a lot to say, it’s just great) and I raise you Harry Potter, She Gets What She Wants, Center Stage, Easy A, The Princess Diaries, Mean Girls, Raise Your Voice, Sky High, Sleepover, Heathers, Bring It On, She’s All That, Clueless, Cry-Baby, What a Girl Wants, Some Kind of Wonderful, Dirty Dancing, Grease, Carrie.
Does it seem like I just picked random movies? It’s because I can’t rattle off things by category and had to use websites that compile lists of teen movies.
I’m thinking 10 Things I Hate About You would be pretty fascinating, if only because I haven’t seen it in forever and thus can’t come up with anything really overthinkable in it. But I’d love to hear one or all of the Overthinkers say, “The shit hath hiteth the fan… ith.”
If you’re doing Ten Things I Hate About You you could talk about the BandSlam movie as well – it seems to be almost exactly the same but with an added dose of High School Musical. It seems to fit into the whole idea that Gossip Girl’s got going on where there’s a really facile overplot held together with interesting mise-en-scene-y details – BandSlam’s got some wicked music references.
There seems to be a trend towards a popculture world where the dialogue the geeks like is spoken by the beautiful people: I blame Joss Whedon, myself.
Love the podcast. More interesting than class.
Just a little comment on “Raising Hope.” The actors portraying the parents on the show could have actually parented the young star. I’ve only seen the show once, but Martha Plimpton is at least 40 and Garret Dillahunt is probably even older than that (46). The star (Lucas Neff) is only 24, though playing 20. I think this is an indicator that actors are not really allowed to look their age like they used to, and that it stays true even as they get older. I know I’ve freaked out quite a bit at the WB/CWs usage of actors I grew up watching when they were in their late teens/early twenties as the current parents of people in their teens/early twenties. Kelly Rutherford does not look like she could be the mother of a college graduate, but she is certainly old enough to be one.